Questions about the Leopard 2A5 (+).

[Higgs]

So today I noticed some things that seem odd but I don't know if they're intentional or not. Hence this post.

First, when using KH mode, altering the contrast and brightness of the Peri isn't possible. Instead, the input is done to the EMES.
This seems like a rather odd decision and I would much rather be able to change it on the Peri. When switching to the EMES-camer feed, it makes sense to change the settings on the EMES but when I'm using the Peri WBG I want to change the settings on the Peri WBG.
The picture below shows the Peri screen in KH mode. The second picture shows what happens when you alter the brightness settings in KH mode.

 

 

The second picture shows the screen with the EMES-camera feed. For the EMES the settings have been changed.

 

 

Secondly, when choosing to watch the video feed of the EMES-camera, hitting the [N] key won't tell the gunner to switch to a different magnification, it zooms into the picture of the screen.
I don't know if that's a real option on the Leopard 2A5, (my experiences are entirely on the Panzer 87 Leopard WE) however in Steel Beasts I would much rather have it tell the AI gunner to switch magnification.

The picture below show the situation before hitting [N]

 

 

The second picture shows the slightly (digitally zoomed in) Peri screen.

 

 

Is this intentional? I would prefer if there was an option to tell the AI gunner to switch between the large FOW and the small FOW.

 

 

EDIT. I am using the lastest version 4.397 and both situation are reproducable in the tutorials and multiplayer.

Edited September 23 by Higgs

[Ssnake]

1 hour ago, Higgs said:

So today I noticed some things that seem odd but I don't know if they're intentional or not. Hence this post.

First, when using KH mode, altering the contrast and brightness of the Peri isn't possible. Instead, the input is done to the EMES.

Let's clarify the terminology first.

On the Leopard 2A4/Pz87 we have two modes of commander override, KH and KW. In KH, the gun is slaved to the Peri, and since there's no thermal camera in the 2A4 peri you can't make any adjustments to the thermal sight. For that, you have KW mode where, technically, the primary sight follows the periscope, and the gun follows the primary sight, and in addition that commander has control over the thermal camers's settings.

This should all sound familiar to you, with your Pz87 background.

 

I seem to remember that in the 2A5, they renamed the KW mode to, I believe, KH-HZF; when you select it, the TIM instrument switches to EMES sight replication (and the EMES status light turns on). So it seems to me that you were in KH-HZF mode when you made the changes to the EMES image properties, and not in KH mode. Could that be the case?

[Higgs]

5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Let's clarify the terminology first.

On the Leopard 2A4/Pz87 we have two modes of commander override, KH and KW. In KH, the gun is slaved to the Peri, and since there's no thermal camera in the 2A4 peri you can't make any adjustments to the thermal sight. For that, you have KW mode where, technically, the primary sight follows the periscope, and the gun follows the primary sight, and in addition that commander has control over the thermal camers's settings.

This should all sound familiar to you, with your Pz87 background.

 

I seem to remember that in the 2A5, they renamed the KW mode to, I believe, KH-HZF; when you select it, the TIM instrument switches to EMES sight replication (and the EMES status light turns on). So it seems to me that you were in KH-HZF mode when you made the changes to the EMES image properties, and not in KH mode. Could that be the case?

That’s exactly NOT the case. I specifically made sure to be in the KH mode and not KH HZF. I serve on the Pz 87 WE which does have a thermal camera for the commander and I am familiar with the difference between KH and KH HZF. In KH the gun follows the Peri (which is why the commander can set his own range at the Kommandantenbediengerät). I made sure to be in this mode. 
 

However, and I admit I should probably have clarified that, the second picture was indeed taken in KH HZF to show that the settings changed for the EMES WBG. In the first picture you can see that the Peri light is lit up and not the EMES light. What happened is that I wanted to set up my TIM in this mode which didn’t do anything to the TIM. I then tried to see what had happened and switched to KH HZF to see if it had changed something there and that’s when I took the second picture with the EMES light glowing. 
 

In Steel Beasts, activating KH HZF automatically switches the screen that displays the TIM to display the EMES-camera feed. (At least on my computer but if there’s a hotkey which can toogle between the two I might have bound it to the same keybind as KH HZF. I honestly don’t remember.) So the first picture shows the situation from KH, meaning the gun slaved to the Peri. 

[Higgs]

Also is there anything about the second half of my post? Is that intentional? 
 

And thank you for the quick response by the way. 

[Ssnake]

I'll summon a programmer, we may have a bug at hand.

[Higgs]

5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

I'll summon a programmer, we may have a bug at hand.

Okay thank you.

Also on a sidenote, in Steel Beasts on the Leopard 2A4 KH mode can be activated at all times (when fully stabilized). On the Leopard 2A5 it can not be activated when the loader is reloading the gun.
Is that representative of the real system? Seems weird that they would change that. Since I have no real life experience with the Leopard 2A5 I wanted to clarify this.