Gibsonm Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Niiiice ..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 24, 2017 Members Share Posted May 24, 2017 Again: We can't include that terrain in SB Pro PE. The new terrain engine will make old terrain data look a bit better than the current one, but we have no permission to use (nor the money to buy) high-res LIDAR scans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Are there nations with open source LIDAR data? Edited May 24, 2017 by Grenny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jartsev Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Grenny said: Are there nations with open source LIDAR data? United States, if I'm not mistaken... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Grenny said: Are there nations with open source LIDAR data? Early days, but might grow over time: http://www.lidar-online.com/tools/maps/?lang=en 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) The big question is who was commanding the marder. And playing chicken with the dismounts lifes. I would have dismounted my milaan team to hunt the target in the tree line and withdrew my Ride four against one is not good odds. LoL Nice video though. Edited May 24, 2017 by Marko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 48 minutes ago, Marko said: The big question is who was commanding the marder. And playing chicken with the dismounts lifes. I would have dismounted my milaan team to hunt the target in the tree line and withdrew my Ride four against one is not good odds. LoL Nice video though. No way. Esim should finalize the Marder model. What he should have done is launching the MILAN from the TC hatch!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rump Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Ssnake said: Again: We can't include that terrain in SB Pro PE. The new terrain engine will make old terrain data look a bit better than the current one, but we have no permission to use (nor the money to buy) high-res LIDAR scans. Likely useless for military customers, but could in theory 'fantasy' terrain be user generated in this resolution? Enjoining the mouse mat, thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 24, 2017 Members Share Posted May 24, 2017 "In principle" fantasy terrain could indeed use that resolution. Whether it would look convincing, though, is a different question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipuli Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Grenny said: Are there nations with open source LIDAR data? Yes, mine. =) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Grenny said: Are there nations with open source LIDAR data? There is this: http://www.ga.gov.au/metadata-gateway/metadata/record/gcat_89644 But I believe that "bare earth" means just that (i.e. no vegetation, no water, no made made features, just the underlying topography). Edited May 24, 2017 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Yes, bare earth generally means no buildings, bridges, trees, grass, etc. First return products on the other hand will show everything, meaning grass, bushes, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rotareneg said: First return products on the other hand will show everything, meaning grass, bushes, etc. Understood, but that version is FOUO (For Official Use Only) so certainly not in the public domain. Edited May 24, 2017 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I was just speaking generally. Besides the getting a point cloud, there are three more refined products: Bare earth: First return: And intensity: And to compare those 1 meter examples to what SB currently supports, here's a 12.5 meter version: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 24, 2017 Members Share Posted May 24, 2017 42 minutes ago, Gibsonm said: But I believe that "bare earth" means just that (i.e. no vegetation, no water, no made made features, just the underlying topography). Yes. This is what one would really want when creating terrain databases. First return data are terrible to work with in our field (tactical/vehicle simulation), so the raw LIDAR scan is usually not good enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) In the US you can get Lidar data freely (and without any strings attached) from various sources, the USGS being the obvious federal level source: https://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/ . There are various state sources as well, like this one: http://kansasgis.org/resources/lidar.cfm Edited May 24, 2017 by Rotareneg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackpin Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Dune field visuals remind me of the Novalogic Games "voxel" technology of 20 years ago. In its day a great leap forward over contemporary polygon-based terrain graphics. For now, it would be great to lose the rectilinear high colour contrast (almost Minecraft..) look of the near field terrain textures in 4.019. The mid to distant field pallete of subdued colours looks more realistic, certainly for temperate latitudes. Ground detail, especially roads, also seems to pop in and out a lot more in 4.019 when in observer mode on UAVs/Helos. Anyone else noticed this? There was a Norwegian co, Blom ASA, doing a lot of Lidar surveys in Scandinavia a couple of years ago. Eventually all this data will percolate down to the public domain, once the cost has been amortised by various agencies. Trackpin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, Trackpin said: Ground detail, especially roads, also seems to pop in and out a lot more in 4.019 when in observer mode on UAVs/Helos. Anyone else noticed this? Yes, I've also noticed this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Yes, I've also noticed this. Guess the optimization work to squezze out more FPS has some undesired side effects :-/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK-DDAM Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 ssnake what map is it that you used there for the sim of the new terrain... cause looks soo familiar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, DK-DDAM said: ssnake what map is it that you used there for the sim of the new terrain... cause looks soo familiar Oksboel... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK-DDAM Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 uhhh hope itll be part of the release 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 17 hours ago, Ssnake said: Again: We can't include that terrain in SB Pro PE. The new terrain engine will make old terrain data look a bit better than the current one, but we have no permission to use (nor the money to buy) high-res LIDAR scans. Does not seem so... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, Grenny said: Does not seem so... ok then. Will we get any maps that are of similar detail? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted May 25, 2017 Members Share Posted May 25, 2017 On 24.5.2017 at 9:14 AM, Ssnake said: Again: We can't include that terrain in SB Pro PE. ...we have no permission to use (nor the money to buy) high-res LIDAR scans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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